SONY: BDP-570? BDP770? or the PS3 (160GB)?

[Kazaam]

I have not gotten any HT-type remote yet, been holding out because I still sorta want a standalone BD/SACD player, as my PS3 is an older louder model.

Ah, yes. Those words make me think. And thinking is a painful activity that I'd rather avoid. So let's get nostalgic and call it reminiscing, OK? Let me see... I still like my PS3, but I do wish I had one of the newer ones that are supposedly quieter. Though, looking back, I'll admit that my old launch-model PS3 was pretty quiet compared to the Xbox 360 I had briefly, and in fairness the PS3 wasn't really any louder than my now long-gone standalone HD-DVD player (Toshiba HDA3). Talk about a bad investment! Now where was I? Where am I going with this? I had a thought. Oh, yes... It's funny about the PS3, because in the past I never would've thought I'd have been OK with using a game system for a movie player. In fact, I frequently made fun of the folks who said way back when that the PS2 (the two, mind you) was a good investment since it was also a "free" DVD player. But along comes the PS3 and now look at me! When I first bought it, I honestly thought I'd have replaced it with a standalone BD player eventually. Certainly by now since basic BD models from Sony, Panasonic, and such are close to a mere hundred bucks. But I haven't replaced my PS3 yet. Priorities change, I guess. About the only standalone players these days that I'd like to get would be one of Oppo's BluRay players since they do SACD/DVD-Audio. That said, given the higher price of the Oppo's, I'd almost rather buy one of the newer style PS3s if they truly run quieter, even if it is considered more of a toy. But a darn powerful toy it is! Not that I'd actually do that. One PS3 is good enough for me, old louder fan or not. Besides I could use the money not spent on another player to buy cookies, instead. I like cookies. Do you like cookies? My favorite cookies are Chips Ahoy followed by Chips Deluxe. Preferably the Chips Deluxe with M&M candies! I like M&Ms. But I also like Reese's Pieces. Not as much as I like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, though. And, oddly enough, I think I'd rather have cookies made up with miniature Peanut Butter cups on top than, say, Reese's Pieces. But M&M's are the best on cookies, regardless. Especially if they're home made cookies. I'm not a big fan of home-made chocolate chip cookies, but I totally dig home-made M&M cookies. They taste really good. M&M cookes are so yummy. MMMmmmmmm.... In fact, it's the kind of cookies that I plan to leave out for Santa Claus this year. Yes, it will be a glass of milk and some home-made M&M cookies for Santa. But I worry. What if Santa only likes homemade M&M cookies when they are hot and fresh? What to do? What to do? Whatever will I do to make sure I stay on the "nice" list and avoid being named "naughty"? I don't want Santa to be pissed at me just because the cookies aren't warm. Let's see... I think what I'll do is to leave Santa a note saying that if he wants to warm up the cookies that he has my permission to turn on my old-style PS3 and he can then put the cookies right next to the cooling fan that is venting the old-style PS3's hot air. After playing a few games, watching a movie, or surfing the internet---no porn, Santa!---I suspect the cookies will become almost as good as when they first came out of the oven, I think. Christmas will be saved, and it's all thanks to the PS3. I'm so happy right now, practically content. Unless Santa wants to bring me a bunch of newly upgraded HT equipment for free, that is!

 

[Kazaam]

Ouch... that's one crazy wall of text that Kazaam person wrote above. WTF was he thinking? Anyway, Yesfan, I think you'll like your PS3. BD movies can look awesome! Congrats.

 

[PaulyT]

Kaz, you're hilarious!

And yeah, I would seriously think about getting a newer quieter PS3 slim, if only the damned things would do SACD. That's the blocking point for me.

 

[Yesfan70]

SACD playback isn't important to me with the PS3. I still have my Denon DVD-2200 for that (and for DVD-A). I have the Denon upstairs and will move it back down to the HT whenever I get a cheaper Bluray for the upstairs TV.


Somewhat related, but if I have the PS3 downstairs, another Sony BD player upstairs, and both are connected to my home network, can the upstairs BD player "stream" content from the PS3's hard drive?

 

[Yesfan70]

Bump for a few more questions.

What is the difference between the Dual Shock 3 and Six Axis controllers? Which one comes with the system and/or which one is preferred?


I'm thinking of getting these as time and budget allow. Thoughts?

PS3 Move Quad Dock Pro

Move Starter Bundle

Bluray remote

controllers for a 2nd person (both standard and for the Move).


I'll probably get the second controller (DualShock 3? or Six Axis?) and the Bluray remote for now, then the Move Bundle, 2nd controllers (if needed), and that Quad Pro docking station to keep everything charged. I think I'll look for a cheap Bluray player first for upstairs before getting the Move stuff.


What about my networking question in my previous post?

 

[Towen7]

The SixAxis remote has tilt sensors that can be used for extra control. If the game supports it, you can tilt the remote left and the character moves left... kind-of like a wii remote. The DualShock remotes have the ability to shake when your character get hurt, or your car crashes.

I have never done it but I do believe that the PS3 will search all shared devices on the network for content. I don't think you can "share" downloaded games or game content but it should work with movies and music.

 

[Yesfan70]

The SixAxis remote has tilt sensors that can be used for extra control. If the game supports it, you can tilt the remote left and the character moves left... kind-of like a wii remote. The DualShock remotes have the ability to shake when your character get hurt, or your car crashes.

I have never done it but I do believe that the PS3 will search all shared devices on the network for content. I don't think you can "share" downloaded games or game content but it should work with movies and music.

Thanks Towen. bscene-drinkingcheers: The shared networking thing is mostly for music and movies.


One more question..... Does anyone know if the Move Starter Bundle comes with one set of controller (motion and nav) or two sets?

Also, I see where some of you guys mentioned that keypad looking thing that goes on the dualshock controllers. What's the advantage to having that and is it also worth considering?

 

[PaulyT]

Most of the game controls out there these days are dualshock *and* sixaxis. They do both - they vibrate, and (if a game uses it, which is relatively rare) you can control based on the orientation of the controller. I think some of the older controllers didn't necessarily do both, but the one I got on eBay recently for ~$35 does both.

 

[Yesfan70]

Ok. If you were me, then would you get the Dualshock 3 or the six-axis for a second controller? Does it matter if have two different controllers for a 2 player game?


I'm thinking a 2nd controller, a charging station (not necessarily the one I linked), and the Bluray remote will be my next order. I think some of those items I might be able to get through work if I have enough points left.

 

[Doghart]

There aren't many games that support the tilting feature of the six-axis, go for the dualshock3.

If you don't like the vibration in the controller, most games have an option to turn it off.

D

 

[Haywood]

I have a game called Lair that uses six axis extensively. I have two six axis controllers and one dual-shock. My recollection is that the dual-shock controller has six axis as well and works fine with Lair.

 

[Towen7]

Also, I see where some of you guys mentioned that keypad looking thing that goes on the dualshock controllers. What's the advantage to having that and is it also worth considering?

The keypad is nice to have if you need to enter text. Using the d-pad to select letters on an on-screen keyboard is a PITA. The only thing I can recall "needing" it for was the web-browser.

 

[Kazaam]

Ok. If you were me, then would you get the Dualshock 3 or the six-axis for a second controller? Does it matter if have two different controllers for a 2 player game?

Edit/OOPS... Haywood already mentioned this but I missed it.
The DualShock3 incorporates the "sixaxis" motion sensors as well. It's the standard controller that comes with the PS3 now. So I'd get the DualShock3 unless you can find a plain old Sixaxis for a whole lot less. Besides, it's like doghart said... if you don't like the vibration of the forced feedback, then you can always turn that feature off.

fwiw... according to Wikipedia the original plain old Sixaxis is somewhat lighter than the DualShock3, but we're probably splitting hairs there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualshock_3#DualShock_3

As for having different controllers for 2 player games? I don't think it would matter. At least it hasn't mattered in my experience yet.

EDIT: I should add that if you start looking at 3rd Party, non-Sony controllers that you'll find some of them (light the first Pelican "glow" controllers don't even include 'sixaxis' (or rumble). Just a heads up.

 

[PaulyT]

Again, most controllers are both! Mine says "Dualshock 3" AND "Sixaxis" on the front of it. You really don't have anything to worry about.

There's a million on sale on eBay for cheap, I got my second one there... :text-link:

Here's my two:

 

[Yesfan70]

Thanks Pauly. I'll look around later on today. I also check about the other accessories on there as well (like the Bluray remote).


Do you remember the seller you got yours from? If the price was right and experience (fast shipment, etc.) I'll just stay with him.


Appreciate all the help guys. You all don't know, how much I appreciate it! bscene-drinkingcheers: :handgestures-thumbup:

 

[PaulyT]

I don't remember, and eBay isn't showing me purchases that far back... but it was used, I think a one-time sell. It was around $30, maybe slightly less. If you use eBay, make sure that it's a US seller (many are from china/hong kong), and that it's a Sony brand controller, as there are generics out there.

There's a couple used ones for decent price here:

:text-link:

Personally, I'd go with this one: :text-link:

 

[Haywood]

Also, I see where some of you guys mentioned that keypad looking thing that goes on the dualshock controllers. What's the advantage to having that and is it also worth considering?

The keypad is nice to have if you need to enter text. Using the d-pad to select letters on an on-screen keyboard is a PITA. The only thing I can recall "needing" it for was the web-browser.

I have a full-size Blue Tooth keyboard for my PS3 for web stuff and entering text, but I almost never use it. This is mainly because the web browser in the PS3 completely sucks.

 

[yromj]

Any USB keyboard will work w/ the PS3; but, it will use up a USB port. My BT MS keyboard worked fine w/ the PS3 but its range sucked. My RF MS keyboards worked much more reliably from the front of my room.

John

 

[Flint]

I just ordered a Sony BDP-S570 to replace my PS3 which is going to be sold to a close friend sometime soon. Since I have a HTPC, I don't need the extra streaming capabilities of a PS3. I just grew tired of the minor issues of the audible fan, having to re-setup the IR receiver, and my step-son constantly using the PS3 for cool and crazy stuff only to reset all my custom settings every time he visits.

 

[Towen7]

What lead you to decide on the Sony over other models from Samsung, LG, Oppo... ?